Amos 3:7 tells us, “Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.” But what happens when prophets don’t agree on what they hear?
What happens when prophets attack prophets?
Since the Nov. 3, election there has been a divide among the prophetic community and specifically those called to the office of the prophet. (Yes, there are still prophets—that’s a discussion for another day.)
There are those who prophesied Donald Trump would win the election (and obviously remain in office). Those who said he wouldn’t win or said nothing. And those who said he would win, but have since recanted—and continue to press that everyone else recant and apologize as well.
A couple of weeks ago, this latter group announced the formation of a “Prophetic Standards Statement” to provide accountability for prophetic words that are released. I don’t think there is any issue that accountability is needed and outlined in the Bible.
My issue with the new Prophetic Standards Statement, is that if we are honest, it is directed at one issue. The issue of this past election and Trump.
I think of prophets of the Bible, many whose words did not come to pass until after their death by hundreds of years or more. According to the Prophetic Standards Statement, they would have had their words judged as erroneous and required to repent.
With the benefit of time, we can clearly see words from Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and others have indeed come to pass.
What about John’s revelation? I realize there are many who believe it has all taken place…but many of us believe there is still much that was prophesied in the book of Revelation that is yet to take place. In fact, we may be living in those days.
I wonder what the writers of the Prophetic Standards Statement would have made of their prophecies? Some seemed pretty outlandish at the time.
What about modern-day prophet, David Wilkerson who prophesied almost fifty years ago of riots and cities burning in America? He also prophesied the rise of the homosexual agenda and how it would be brazen and accepted.
He prophesied of the attack against Christians and the Church in his book, “The Vision and Beyond” when he stated, “I see an hour of persecution coming such as mankind has never before witnessed. An antichrist-spirit will enter the hearts of certain men in high places, in government, and in the judicial system, causing these officials to engage in legal maneuvers designed to harass independent churches, missionaries, and ministers.”
All of that has come to pass since his death. But Wilkerson was labeled a “false prophet” and a “lunatic.” Heck, even SNOPES supposedly “fact-checked” him after New York started to burn and declared it false.
But of those prophecies, he was accurate.
While we definitely need accountability in the prophetic community, the bigger question is why is there such a huge divide among what the prophets are hearing? That is a big concern.
Because there are well-known and well-respected prophets on both sides of this spectrum.
Both sides can’t be right.
I believe the answer can be found as we look at the story in I Kings 13 back in biblical days. A man of God (prophet) was instructed by the Lord to deliver a word to King Jeroboam. The prophet was told not to eat or drink anything while in the city and after delivering the word to return a different way than which he came. He obeyed and was on the return trip home when an older/established prophet from that city chased after him.
This is what we learn from scripture regarding their encounter:
“…He (the older/established prophet) found him (the prophet God had used to deliver the message) sitting under an oak; and he said to him, ‘Are you the man of God who came from Judah?’ And he said, ‘I am.’
“Then he said to him, ‘Come home with me and eat bread.’ But he said, ‘I cannot return with you, nor come with you, nor will I eat bread or drink water with you in this place. For a command came to me by the word of the Lord: “You shall not eat bread, nor drink water there; do not return by going the way that you came.”’
Then he said to him, ‘I too am a prophet like you, and an angel spoke to me by the word of the Lord, saying, “Bring him back with you to your house, so that he may eat bread and drink water.”’
But he lied to him. So, he went back with him, and ate bread in his house and drank water.
The prophet should have remained steadfast on what the Lord spoke to him.
The result from this conversation was that the younger prophet heeded the words of the older prophet, and changed course. He ignored what God had spoken to him to follow the older prophet back into the city for a meal.
It cost him his life.
Why did the older prophet lie? Was it intentional? Perhaps he was jealous that God had not used him to deliver the word? Did he run after the prophet God used because he was no longer hearing from God himself and wanted to know what had been said?
We are given no additional insight. But the wording that the prophet LIED to him indicates he did it with intentionality.
Now, hear me please, I am not saying that one group of prophets is intentionally lying to another group.
What I am saying is that there is a division among the prophets and they both can’t be right.
Could it be, that like the older prophet from Bethel, for some reason God has not revealed to one group of prophets what He is doing? And so, like the older prophet from Bethel, they are now chasing after the prophets who delivered the word about Trump and who are standing firm?
The truth is the prophets who prophesied Trump won were right. (For those who still don’t believe there is evidence to support that, please keep watching–it is abundant.)
However, it is also true that Trump is not in office at this time.
Personally, I don’t believe that will remain the case. I also don’t believe our “salvation” will come through the 2022 election, but by a suddenly by God’s hand.
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Donald Trump, won the election. He is the authentic president, and I believe will take his seat of authority in a way that can only be attributed to God.
(If I’m wrong, time will tell and I will have no trouble admitting it.)
I believe America and the world will see God step in to remove those who have established themselves on the throne. The big question many of us have is why hasn’t He done it yet?
I believe this is about patience. His patience to allow people caught in deception and rebellion to repent, while also developing our patience to trust Him.
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The Prophetic Accountability Statement created by these respected ministers (I believe most would agree with the majority of the statement) has a clause which, to me, is the primary issue. It says,
“On the other hand, if a prophetic word is delivered containing specific details and dates in which the stated prophetic word will come to pass and that prophecy contains no conditions to be met in order to be fulfilled, and that word does not come to pass as prophesied, then the one who delivered the word must be willing to take full responsibility, demonstrating genuine contrition before God and people.
“Any statement of apology and/or explanation/clarification should be delivered to the audience to whom the erroneous word was given. For example, if it was given to an individual, the apology (and/or explanation/clarification) should be delivered to the individual. If the word was delivered publicly, then a public apology (and/or explanation/clarification) should be presented…”
But based on that standard, what about some of the prophecies by Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, John? David Wilkerson? Kim Clement? By those standards they would all have needed to recant and repent.
And yet time has proven them accurate…with some words still outstanding.
What we need right now is wisdom and grace. We need to stand fast and see what He will do.
God has not changed. Neither has His Word. What He said, He will do.
One more important point to consider… Back in the days of King David, his son, Absalom, worked a coup d’état. He was successful in taking the throne—temporarily.
And for a short season the hearts of the people were with him because of the deceptive net that had been laid for months prior to the takeover.
It was a season in which David had to humble himself before the Lord and said,
If I find favor in the eyes of the LORD, He will bring me back and let me see both it and His dwelling place again (2 Samuel 15:25).
We are in that season.
As one set of prophets continues to call for “accountability and repentance” are we going to be like the young prophet who heeded the word of the more established prophet over what the Lord has spoken? While we don’t want to be stiff-necked or refuse correction if we are wrong, we also don’t want to be deceived or disobedient.
Without a doubt, it is concerning/confusing to see a host of well-respected prophets continue to speak one thing, while another group speaks quite another. However, in my opinion, the issue of who is America’s president was not settled on January 20 or by Heaven, thus it remains to be settled here on earth.
It’s time to hold fast. And as we do, may the prophets stop attacking the prophets.
- Bill Gates
- civil war
- Corona Virus
- cycle of the past
- digital identity markers
- Dominion software
- election fraud
- Rosh Hashanah
- Sharia Law
- voter fraud
- Washington DC
- We the People
Something else- The reason I am writing today is that I have been in much prayer for all children. The Holy Spirit started telling me that as parents & grandparents we need to speak God’s blessing into our children’s lives, like Jacob when he spoke blessing over his family.
I get upset when I hear about the kids that runaway, are abused, get involved in drugs & sex trafficing. Lives cut short because of the sin of others.
The Holy Spirit said that these children have never been told they are of GREAT VALVE & HAVE PURPOSE. Their parents/families & teachers don’t encourage them in the things of God.
Let’s change this…
The Holy Spirit gave me this list of BLESSING to speak over the children. I do not take credit for this. Nowhere is my name attributed to its creation. LET GOD BE GLORIFIED! and the children BLESSED! Please share with your son, his church, other churches, parents, etc. There is HOPE for this generation. Thank you Susan
OUR CHILDREN ARE OF GREAT VALUE IN GOD’S EYES, SO WE SPEAK
THESE BLESSINGS INTO THEIR LIVES. WE WANT THEM TO HAVE
EVERYTHING GOD HAS PLANNED FOR THEM TO SUCCEED. –
BLESS… (CHILDREN’S NAMES) …WITH
1) ANGELS TO GO WITH THEM FOR PROTECTION & GUIDANCE
2) THE FEAR OF THE LORD
3) THE MIND OF CHRIST
4) A NEW HEART & HEARING EARS
5) THE HOLY SPIRIT’S DIRECTION
6) GREAT UNDERSTANDING, REVELATION & GOOD JUDGEMENT
7) THE LORD’S ABUNDANT FAVOR & DELIVERANCE
8) GODLY WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, INSIGHT & SUCCESS
9) EXCEPTIONAL QUALITIES, INTEGRITY, CREATIVITY & COMMON SENSE
10) ABILITIES TO BE INDUSTRIOUS & ACCOMPLISHING GREAT THINGS
11) LIFE PROMOTIONS
12) A PLEASING PERSONALITY, BEING RESPECTFUL & RESPONSIBLE
13) NOT AFRAID BUT STRONG & OF GOOD COURAGE
14) NOT CORRUPT OR NEGLIGENT BUT TRUSTWORTHY
15) GREAT LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS,
FAITHFULNESS, GENTLENESS, SELF-CONTROL, MERCY & GRACE
16) A LOVING HOME 17) A LONG HEALTHY LIFE
18) AND THE BLOOD OF JESUS TO COVER THEM ALWAYS & FOREVER
Amen. Thank you for that list of blessings to speak over our children!
Amen Karen! I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said. Isaiah prophesied about Cyrus over 100 years before he conquered Babylon. Thanks for speaking out on this.
Thank you friend!
I believe this is a time of Luke 18:8 in action: “Will I find faith when I come”. Do we believe the Word of the Lord even when things look contrary? This could be the day of the “great falling away”; when things don’t go the way one thinks-they refuse the results and miss out. Many know of works behind the scenes that leave no doubt as to a soon coming change. They may not even be aware of any prophecy; they still know a change is coming. It will happen in God’s timing. God is patient hoping the erring will humble themselves and have FAITH in what God said and not in their own “sight”. I hope this comment will provoke some careful thought and prayer for humility and guidance. If God said it then it will come to pass. When it happens will He find you faithful (i.e. believing what He said)?
“(If I’m wrong, time will tell and I will have no trouble admitting it.)”
Time did tell. You are wrong. And you do seem to have a problem with just that.
“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” – Susan B. Anthony
Perhaps you don’t understand what we are saying. God’s not done here. It isn’t done. In the days of Absalom, it also looked like it was over…but it wasn’t. Watch and see. Time will tell.